h1techSlave
11-30 03:54 PM
http://www.dhs.gov/xlibrary/assets/CISOMB_Annual_Report_2007.pdf
Look at page 52. Page 53 explains, why USCIS is wasting visa numbers even though there is huge demand for the same.
The 7% country limit does not exist for the last quarter. But it does exist during the first 3 quarters. Since USCIS is moving the PD drastically only in the last quarter, they are unable to process all the applications in the last quarter resulting in wastage of EB visas.
Where did you get this number 80,000 FB numbers given to EB immigrants? Please show me the source !
Also, you are forgetting about 7% country quota and the demand from ROW (which itself is retrogressed!).
So no matter what you may think, without IV it's going to be a long wait
Look at page 52. Page 53 explains, why USCIS is wasting visa numbers even though there is huge demand for the same.
The 7% country limit does not exist for the last quarter. But it does exist during the first 3 quarters. Since USCIS is moving the PD drastically only in the last quarter, they are unable to process all the applications in the last quarter resulting in wastage of EB visas.
Where did you get this number 80,000 FB numbers given to EB immigrants? Please show me the source !
Also, you are forgetting about 7% country quota and the demand from ROW (which itself is retrogressed!).
So no matter what you may think, without IV it's going to be a long wait
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MerciesOfInjustices
02-21 07:28 AM
dear members,
dint had much time to go thro' your responses. but if senior ppl are targetting this fellow( mercies) for this thread, then i beg to differ. because as a member of IV, i have been answering "hadron" posts too at immigration portal.
I think all Mercies is trying to do is help IV out, by preparing answers of such questions which stupid ppl ask, so they can be put to a stop right away. Probably he's drawing your attention to some q's that all of you have answers for, just guide mercies to that post,
but i think all of your remarks have been directed towards merices only as if he's started it all.
i guess we outta stop ppl who are trying to defame this collective effort by giving them one-point answers.
have to get back to work.
P.S.: i dont want anyone to think im from numbersusa ;)
Exactly! I go by a different user name at Immigration Portal, and tried my best to counter hadron's posts. I only created this thread after I saw that no people in the know were countering this guy. I am a foot soldier, not an officer.
The post from rags4u is exactly what we needed. He and another IV guy is engaged in getting things under control, as I wanted.
I wonder if this person who did all this posting without reading what is posted on the site and wasted the valuable time of IV volunteers from an anti immigration group? Please do not get distracteed guys and all those people sitting ont he edge, join in and act!!
As for all of you guys who raise the scare of anti-immigrationists at the drop of the hat - go thru all of my posts, and you will find I cannot be from numbersusa. You can also check with IV's officers and they can get my name/address from my contribution check already deposited in IV's account!
Please try to counter propaganda wherever you can - that's how we will get more people to join! Efforts like mine do not waste time - they serve a purpose!
As it is, making most legal immigrants take part in this struggle, is like milking a male buffalo.
The most important part is indeed to 'milk the male buffalo', and one way is to engage them as much as possible. Believe me, I am trying my best at the other website - under a different user name (not hadron).
dint had much time to go thro' your responses. but if senior ppl are targetting this fellow( mercies) for this thread, then i beg to differ. because as a member of IV, i have been answering "hadron" posts too at immigration portal.
I think all Mercies is trying to do is help IV out, by preparing answers of such questions which stupid ppl ask, so they can be put to a stop right away. Probably he's drawing your attention to some q's that all of you have answers for, just guide mercies to that post,
but i think all of your remarks have been directed towards merices only as if he's started it all.
i guess we outta stop ppl who are trying to defame this collective effort by giving them one-point answers.
have to get back to work.
P.S.: i dont want anyone to think im from numbersusa ;)
Exactly! I go by a different user name at Immigration Portal, and tried my best to counter hadron's posts. I only created this thread after I saw that no people in the know were countering this guy. I am a foot soldier, not an officer.
The post from rags4u is exactly what we needed. He and another IV guy is engaged in getting things under control, as I wanted.
I wonder if this person who did all this posting without reading what is posted on the site and wasted the valuable time of IV volunteers from an anti immigration group? Please do not get distracteed guys and all those people sitting ont he edge, join in and act!!
As for all of you guys who raise the scare of anti-immigrationists at the drop of the hat - go thru all of my posts, and you will find I cannot be from numbersusa. You can also check with IV's officers and they can get my name/address from my contribution check already deposited in IV's account!
Please try to counter propaganda wherever you can - that's how we will get more people to join! Efforts like mine do not waste time - they serve a purpose!
As it is, making most legal immigrants take part in this struggle, is like milking a male buffalo.
The most important part is indeed to 'milk the male buffalo', and one way is to engage them as much as possible. Believe me, I am trying my best at the other website - under a different user name (not hadron).
optimystic
10-23 08:48 PM
Is your NC cleared? If yes, shouldn't you have received your gc in early 2007 itself before July 07 messed up EB3?
Even if its not cleared, you would have surely crossed 180-day barrier, yes?
I'm not EB3 but if you can post updates in this thread related to your case, it would satisfy some of my curiosity.
I don't know if my NC is cleared. Tried to find it couple of times calling over phone but always ran into unfriendly IO officers.
Got out of BEC in dec 2006, I140 cleared in Jan 2007 but then my PD became current only in June 2007. And due to laziness of my law firm, my I-485 filing did not happen in June and got dragged into July 07 mess.
I think if USCIS had initiated my Namecheck as per normal timeline (sometime around when my I-485 filed , i.e anywhere between July - Sep 2007), then yes, I think it crossed 180 days long time back.
Even if its not cleared, you would have surely crossed 180-day barrier, yes?
I'm not EB3 but if you can post updates in this thread related to your case, it would satisfy some of my curiosity.
I don't know if my NC is cleared. Tried to find it couple of times calling over phone but always ran into unfriendly IO officers.
Got out of BEC in dec 2006, I140 cleared in Jan 2007 but then my PD became current only in June 2007. And due to laziness of my law firm, my I-485 filing did not happen in June and got dragged into July 07 mess.
I think if USCIS had initiated my Namecheck as per normal timeline (sometime around when my I-485 filed , i.e anywhere between July - Sep 2007), then yes, I think it crossed 180 days long time back.
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nc14
11-19 04:22 PM
psaxena,
Right on the money. These threads are all about free loaders (mostly) coming up with their ideas. Most of them will contribute a big 0 = ZERO to this community.
GC_on_Demand,
As you see most of them are free members who have nothing to do with the immigration reform. They just keep browsing around the pages to see if there is any hope of getting GC any sooner and others are disguised Antis and marketing guys.
So just don't get bothered by these members and their comments.
The guys who are serious , have already proved themselves by becoming the donors and working sincerely towards the solution.
Right on the money. These threads are all about free loaders (mostly) coming up with their ideas. Most of them will contribute a big 0 = ZERO to this community.
GC_on_Demand,
As you see most of them are free members who have nothing to do with the immigration reform. They just keep browsing around the pages to see if there is any hope of getting GC any sooner and others are disguised Antis and marketing guys.
So just don't get bothered by these members and their comments.
The guys who are serious , have already proved themselves by becoming the donors and working sincerely towards the solution.
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abused
11-28 04:33 PM
July 6th filer awaiting FP (no SR opened yet). My case has been transferred back and forth between Nebraska and California. I asked my lawyer - he advised me to "Sit tight as there is nothing that can be done except to wait for them to process my I140, I485, I765 and I131 applications."
So here I am, still being underpaid and abused by my current emloyer. ...waiting for the day that I can escape and get a better paying job and work in an employee-friendly environment.
So here I am, still being underpaid and abused by my current emloyer. ...waiting for the day that I can escape and get a better paying job and work in an employee-friendly environment.
devamanohar
08-14 06:10 AM
I filed for my self, wife and two daughters I-485 and EAD with all documents but without I-140 recipt notice instead I enclosed evidences of the cashed check, INS online status print out and cover letter with reciept number.
My application reached on July 2 at 11:34am. No reciept yet. I called INS and representative explained my case will not be denied. If at all, INS will ask for the reciept notice.
I have my reciept notice for I-140 now.
At this point shall I wait or apply one more today with the reciept notice.
My application reached on July 2 at 11:34am. No reciept yet. I called INS and representative explained my case will not be denied. If at all, INS will ask for the reciept notice.
I have my reciept notice for I-140 now.
At this point shall I wait or apply one more today with the reciept notice.
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badlucky
05-13 10:23 PM
140jibjab,
im also in similar situation. wife wants divorce, but since she doesnt want to return to india, she has applied for H1 lottery and waiting. She is working on EAD and requested me to keep her dependent till 2008 october.
we have applied for divorce in india and we will keep the final judge hearing in october 2008.
i asked my lawyer how to handle 485 situation: this is what he said
1. there is no formal process to remove a 485 application.
2. after u get ur divorce decree, take an infopass appointment and explain/ask what shud be done.
3. he said - most probably, the officer will ask ur WIFE to submit a informal letter requesting abandonment of 485 appln due to divorce, along with copy of divorce decree.
4. in case ur wife does not follow up becos she is not in the country etc, you urself can request abandonement for ur spouse.
5. keep record of the letters and correspondence with infopass/USCIS becos incase u remarry and reintroduce a new 485 for new wife, INCASE they raise a flag that u already have a derivative, then u can use the correspondence proof to show old deravative is not valid anymore due to divorce.
6. Lawyer also said, there have been cases where in abandonment letters were sent, and yet GC arrived in mail. basically he told my wife, if ur lucky and i dont get married before 485 approval, there is still chance u will get ur gc inspite of indian divorce being complete. (looks like US dept does not proactively refer foreign records of marraige at the tme of adjudication).
hope this helps...i plan to follow same procedure after my divorce finalizes.
im also in similar situation. wife wants divorce, but since she doesnt want to return to india, she has applied for H1 lottery and waiting. She is working on EAD and requested me to keep her dependent till 2008 october.
we have applied for divorce in india and we will keep the final judge hearing in october 2008.
i asked my lawyer how to handle 485 situation: this is what he said
1. there is no formal process to remove a 485 application.
2. after u get ur divorce decree, take an infopass appointment and explain/ask what shud be done.
3. he said - most probably, the officer will ask ur WIFE to submit a informal letter requesting abandonment of 485 appln due to divorce, along with copy of divorce decree.
4. in case ur wife does not follow up becos she is not in the country etc, you urself can request abandonement for ur spouse.
5. keep record of the letters and correspondence with infopass/USCIS becos incase u remarry and reintroduce a new 485 for new wife, INCASE they raise a flag that u already have a derivative, then u can use the correspondence proof to show old deravative is not valid anymore due to divorce.
6. Lawyer also said, there have been cases where in abandonment letters were sent, and yet GC arrived in mail. basically he told my wife, if ur lucky and i dont get married before 485 approval, there is still chance u will get ur gc inspite of indian divorce being complete. (looks like US dept does not proactively refer foreign records of marraige at the tme of adjudication).
hope this helps...i plan to follow same procedure after my divorce finalizes.
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mhathi
07-17 10:36 AM
WELL SAID!!!
The only thing I would like to add is, when we eventually get our GC, lets not forget those behind us!
jasquil
Absolutely!
The only thing I would like to add is, when we eventually get our GC, lets not forget those behind us!
jasquil
Absolutely!
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kevin08
04-19 10:09 PM
Man - U guys love to quibble about stupid things rather than focus on the big picture. All my thread says is - I'm doing X .... Please consider doing it as well if you think it is worth your while ... Thats it - Nothing more - nothing less. And here we're having a discussion about how long I've been a member of IV and yada yada yada ...
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krishna.ahd
01-31 10:44 AM
That is what everytime they state , all these money will be spent to modernize and improve the processing time, so far nothing happened.
-Krishna
"When the going gets tough, the tough gets going"
-Krishna
"When the going gets tough, the tough gets going"
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amslonewolf
04-17 07:06 PM
I have a EB3 India PD of May 2002.. That said, the snippet in the visa bulletin sounds very promising..
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eb3stuck
11-09 02:37 PM
Still waiting for FP ,called USCIS Customer service on Nov 06th,2007,rep advised to call after 30 days to file SR.
She mentioned delay is because my application was sent to Nebraska as it should have been,Nebraska transferrd to California ,California did my ecept and EAD and sent back to Nebraska for further action....don't know when.
I know people filing later than me and PD in 2006-2007 got their FP notices and FP done...
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* EB3 - PD April 2002
* I-140 Approved -Jan 2006
* I-485, EAD - USCIS Received July 02nd,2007 @10:30 am
*ND -Aug 30th,2007
*EAD received - Sept 10th,2007
Contributed $200 so far
She mentioned delay is because my application was sent to Nebraska as it should have been,Nebraska transferrd to California ,California did my ecept and EAD and sent back to Nebraska for further action....don't know when.
I know people filing later than me and PD in 2006-2007 got their FP notices and FP done...
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* EB3 - PD April 2002
* I-140 Approved -Jan 2006
* I-485, EAD - USCIS Received July 02nd,2007 @10:30 am
*ND -Aug 30th,2007
*EAD received - Sept 10th,2007
Contributed $200 so far
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02-13 10:15 AM
I know what the job title and Job duties were stated in the Labor certification and have acopy of my Labor certification application with me, but if you can give me the format of the letter for AC21 that would be great.
Please let me know
Thanks
check post #22
Please let me know
Thanks
check post #22
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veni001
06-07 12:41 PM
I am surprised with this thread. There is no Deadline for employemnt based GC (this was mentioned by Sen. Robert (Bob) Men�ndez,NJ when requesting to move the FB deadline which is clearly mentioned in the bill as May 01, 2005) . Please read the summary and text carefully.
Summary:
First five years
Total number of merit-based green cards includes sum of:
a.) First five fiscal years have same number of green cards as made available to EB category in 2005. This number is 246,878.
b.) Any visa number not used by family based category.
How the total number will be divided between Current system and new merit-based system and Y visa holders --
- 10,000 (or more) reserved for exceptional aliens under �Y� visa category.
- 90,000 (exactly 90,000 � not more not less) for backlogged (pending or approved I-140 applications). Currently, this number is 140,000.
- Remaining possibly goes to new merits system. Until the merits system is ready for accepting petitions, the Y visa holders probably get a shot at this since the clause says �No more than 10,000� � leaving room to let it go up from 10,000 to whatever is left.
and the TEXT of the Bill
�(A) for the first five fiscal years shall be equal to the
33 number of immigrant visas made available to aliens
34 seeking immigrant visas under section 203(b) of this
35 Act for fiscal year 2005, plus any immigrant visas
36 not required for the class specified in (c), of which:
37 (i) at least 10,000 will be for exceptional aliens
38 in nonimmigrant status under section
39 101(a)(15)(Y); and
40 (ii) 90,000 will be for aliens who were the
41 beneficiaries of an application that was pending
42 or approved at the time of the effective date of
43 this section, per Section 502(d) of the [Insert
44 title of Act] ( Act not the bill)
(c) EFFECTIVE DATE.�The amendments made by this section shall take
11 effect on the first day of the fiscal year subsequent to the fiscal year of
12 enactment.
So a bill becomes law only after signed by the president, and the effective date could be Oct 01, 2007 if not Oct 01, 2008.
So all the I-140 filed on of before Effective date are considered as pending!!
I don't know why even lawyers are getting confused here!:confused:
Summary:
First five years
Total number of merit-based green cards includes sum of:
a.) First five fiscal years have same number of green cards as made available to EB category in 2005. This number is 246,878.
b.) Any visa number not used by family based category.
How the total number will be divided between Current system and new merit-based system and Y visa holders --
- 10,000 (or more) reserved for exceptional aliens under �Y� visa category.
- 90,000 (exactly 90,000 � not more not less) for backlogged (pending or approved I-140 applications). Currently, this number is 140,000.
- Remaining possibly goes to new merits system. Until the merits system is ready for accepting petitions, the Y visa holders probably get a shot at this since the clause says �No more than 10,000� � leaving room to let it go up from 10,000 to whatever is left.
and the TEXT of the Bill
�(A) for the first five fiscal years shall be equal to the
33 number of immigrant visas made available to aliens
34 seeking immigrant visas under section 203(b) of this
35 Act for fiscal year 2005, plus any immigrant visas
36 not required for the class specified in (c), of which:
37 (i) at least 10,000 will be for exceptional aliens
38 in nonimmigrant status under section
39 101(a)(15)(Y); and
40 (ii) 90,000 will be for aliens who were the
41 beneficiaries of an application that was pending
42 or approved at the time of the effective date of
43 this section, per Section 502(d) of the [Insert
44 title of Act] ( Act not the bill)
(c) EFFECTIVE DATE.�The amendments made by this section shall take
11 effect on the first day of the fiscal year subsequent to the fiscal year of
12 enactment.
So a bill becomes law only after signed by the president, and the effective date could be Oct 01, 2007 if not Oct 01, 2008.
So all the I-140 filed on of before Effective date are considered as pending!!
I don't know why even lawyers are getting confused here!:confused:
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niklshah
08-27 10:57 AM
SC: Nebraska
Renewal
RD: 06/16
FP: 07/11
RFE 07/30
RFE received 08/04
RFE response sent and received by uscis 08/07
Expedite request 08/15
Expedite request accepted 08/19
waiting...
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Current EAD expires Sep 26
How did you put the expedite request? did u call? did they take the edpedite request before 90 days of your filling? what did u tell them to put in the request? Pls help i am in same mess too file on june 2nd...
Renewal
RD: 06/16
FP: 07/11
RFE 07/30
RFE received 08/04
RFE response sent and received by uscis 08/07
Expedite request 08/15
Expedite request accepted 08/19
waiting...
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Current EAD expires Sep 26
How did you put the expedite request? did u call? did they take the edpedite request before 90 days of your filling? what did u tell them to put in the request? Pls help i am in same mess too file on june 2nd...
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GCard_Dream
12-13 04:05 PM
That may be but do you actually think this practice is fair and should be legal. To me and hundreds of thousands of other folks who are patiently waiting in line, it is fraud because you are cutting in line. The sad part is we see that you are cutting in line but we can't do s**t about it just because it's legal.
Why do we all start complaining when illegals get preferential treatment than us? We all start saying that we came here legally, we pay taxes, we waited in line, we did everything by the book.. bla bla bla. Well .. they are also getting their gc legally so then why do we complain?
How is this fraud ? What he is doing is legal ;)
Why do we all start complaining when illegals get preferential treatment than us? We all start saying that we came here legally, we pay taxes, we waited in line, we did everything by the book.. bla bla bla. Well .. they are also getting their gc legally so then why do we complain?
How is this fraud ? What he is doing is legal ;)
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pappu
04-13 04:40 PM
So after more than a month of sleepless nights, thanks to Immigration Voice looks like my I 485 application is back on track.
A recap of my situation:
Last month I got an email from USCIS-CRIS stating that my I 485 was withdrawn. After being in this country for close to 10 years and in the immigration queue for more than 7 years why would I withdraw the application ??? I did not withdraw my application !!!
It took me more than a month to find out the reason behind the withdrawal..trust me it was not easy..and guess what ....It was my Attorney who had withdrawn the application in Error. Now what ... I call USCIS multiple times.. talk to many different IO's .. some of them patient and try to help.. some extremely rude.. but all of them had only one thing to say... they cannot help!!..... I get an Info Pass... no help there either.. I set up an emergency meeting with my attorney (one of the large Immigration Law Firms) .. nothing...they accept their mistake tell me that they will do all they can .. but no assurance that they will reinstate the case .. limited forward movement.... things look gloomy and bleak..no one can help me.
Then I called Immigration Voice on the number that is listed on the site and left a voice mail. Promptly got a call back I spoke to a Core member who understood the gravity and urgency of the situation and swiflty moved forward and got in touch with their contacts in the government. The Core member also put me in a conference call with the person who was going to look into my case, I was so relieved that I could explain the situation first hand.
I got a call today and I was told that after evaluating my case my file has been reopened and they have mailed an offical notice regarding the same and I should get it in a few days. *Fingers crossed until I get this notice in hand ;)*
The IV core was extremely sensitive to my situation and were very responsive and extremly helpful. I cant thank Immigration Voice enough for helping me resolve this issue in a quick manner.
I have registered to be a recurring contributing member and I intend to be an active member of this group.
My lessons from this crazy experience are:
- Never trust your attorney, always ask for a copy of any letter/document they send to USCIS on your behalf
- There is no organization besides IV out there that is looking out for the interests of the Immigrant Community.
- We need to strengthen IV in all ways we can, we need to be active.
- And as so many members have already said "We are IV." If we want things to be better "WE" need to do something about it.
I urge members who are still contemplating becoming active members to evaluate their options and to become active and contributing members of IV.
- Peace
ps:
Another point I would like to add is that no other organization has the kind of reach and the credibility with USCIS as IV has as far as representing the true interests of the Immigrant Community goes. IV is a huge asset we have and we should work towards strenthening it.
We are glad that it worked out.
A recap of my situation:
Last month I got an email from USCIS-CRIS stating that my I 485 was withdrawn. After being in this country for close to 10 years and in the immigration queue for more than 7 years why would I withdraw the application ??? I did not withdraw my application !!!
It took me more than a month to find out the reason behind the withdrawal..trust me it was not easy..and guess what ....It was my Attorney who had withdrawn the application in Error. Now what ... I call USCIS multiple times.. talk to many different IO's .. some of them patient and try to help.. some extremely rude.. but all of them had only one thing to say... they cannot help!!..... I get an Info Pass... no help there either.. I set up an emergency meeting with my attorney (one of the large Immigration Law Firms) .. nothing...they accept their mistake tell me that they will do all they can .. but no assurance that they will reinstate the case .. limited forward movement.... things look gloomy and bleak..no one can help me.
Then I called Immigration Voice on the number that is listed on the site and left a voice mail. Promptly got a call back I spoke to a Core member who understood the gravity and urgency of the situation and swiflty moved forward and got in touch with their contacts in the government. The Core member also put me in a conference call with the person who was going to look into my case, I was so relieved that I could explain the situation first hand.
I got a call today and I was told that after evaluating my case my file has been reopened and they have mailed an offical notice regarding the same and I should get it in a few days. *Fingers crossed until I get this notice in hand ;)*
The IV core was extremely sensitive to my situation and were very responsive and extremly helpful. I cant thank Immigration Voice enough for helping me resolve this issue in a quick manner.
I have registered to be a recurring contributing member and I intend to be an active member of this group.
My lessons from this crazy experience are:
- Never trust your attorney, always ask for a copy of any letter/document they send to USCIS on your behalf
- There is no organization besides IV out there that is looking out for the interests of the Immigrant Community.
- We need to strengthen IV in all ways we can, we need to be active.
- And as so many members have already said "We are IV." If we want things to be better "WE" need to do something about it.
I urge members who are still contemplating becoming active members to evaluate their options and to become active and contributing members of IV.
- Peace
ps:
Another point I would like to add is that no other organization has the kind of reach and the credibility with USCIS as IV has as far as representing the true interests of the Immigrant Community goes. IV is a huge asset we have and we should work towards strenthening it.
We are glad that it worked out.
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Marphad
12-30 04:42 PM
my PD is april 2001
and still waiting , & when we call ins we get a letter
still in processing time :(
what can we do?
I am surprised to see People with April 2001 PD still waiting. Do you know the reason of getting stuck as your PD is current for some time.
and still waiting , & when we call ins we get a letter
still in processing time :(
what can we do?
I am surprised to see People with April 2001 PD still waiting. Do you know the reason of getting stuck as your PD is current for some time.
sorcerer666
04-29 01:51 PM
Disclaimer: I am just someone who once seriously considered getting a degree in Strategic Studies. I am not from India. If you don't like what I have to say or feel that it is not my *place* to say it, just ignore me. I will not get engaged in an online wrestling match to demonstrate my "e-toughness".
It will not have any major repercussions b/w the 2 countries or any impact on the Green Card situation. Relations b/w US and India encompass a much broader spectrum than just a large defense contract. India's economy presents enormous opportunities for US companies, there is the issue of countering China and not to mention the same view on most regional as well as international security issues. They will not get any where if they start slugging it out every time there is a lost trade deal. India has helped US in the past with Iran's nuclear program while US has shown the importance it gives India by pushing an exception from NSG in nuclear energy.
If anything I am surprised that US is surprised that they lost the bid. Both Rafael and the Typhoon are amazing platforms. I did not read the actual RFP but it is arrogance to assume that the US offerings were inherently any better than the European offerings.
@kumara121: I can assure you that Uncle Sam does not want to "..come and check the planes whenever and wherever it wanted to". If I only had a dollar for every conspiracy theory I hear from people from our part of the world (Pakistan, Indian, Bangladesh) I would have been in Eb-5 years ago :)
The biggest issue was that the US offerings were very comparable to existing Mirage 2000 platform that IAF already has. The MRCA is a long term upgrade and does not make sense to get a plane that is so close to the existing inventory.
Bottom line? The GC aspirants did not gain or loose anything. IAF won by getting a hot fighter, the only loosers are Boeing and Lockhead.
Great analysis!! Eurofighter is newest of them all... moreover, Indians have already made great indigenous design enhancements to the existing SU-30 MKI's that they really wouldn't want an American make anyways. I'm not sure why the SU-35's aren't in that list??
It will not have any major repercussions b/w the 2 countries or any impact on the Green Card situation. Relations b/w US and India encompass a much broader spectrum than just a large defense contract. India's economy presents enormous opportunities for US companies, there is the issue of countering China and not to mention the same view on most regional as well as international security issues. They will not get any where if they start slugging it out every time there is a lost trade deal. India has helped US in the past with Iran's nuclear program while US has shown the importance it gives India by pushing an exception from NSG in nuclear energy.
If anything I am surprised that US is surprised that they lost the bid. Both Rafael and the Typhoon are amazing platforms. I did not read the actual RFP but it is arrogance to assume that the US offerings were inherently any better than the European offerings.
@kumara121: I can assure you that Uncle Sam does not want to "..come and check the planes whenever and wherever it wanted to". If I only had a dollar for every conspiracy theory I hear from people from our part of the world (Pakistan, Indian, Bangladesh) I would have been in Eb-5 years ago :)
The biggest issue was that the US offerings were very comparable to existing Mirage 2000 platform that IAF already has. The MRCA is a long term upgrade and does not make sense to get a plane that is so close to the existing inventory.
Bottom line? The GC aspirants did not gain or loose anything. IAF won by getting a hot fighter, the only loosers are Boeing and Lockhead.
Great analysis!! Eurofighter is newest of them all... moreover, Indians have already made great indigenous design enhancements to the existing SU-30 MKI's that they really wouldn't want an American make anyways. I'm not sure why the SU-35's aren't in that list??
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11-06 12:17 PM
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LOL! Good one!:D
LOL! Good one!:D
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